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Thoughts on where tes 6 will be or where you'd like it to be

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Ok maybe I'm a little late but many people speculate that tes 6 will be in valenwood. I myself however would like to fight the dominion head on so maybe make 3 provinces joined: valenwood, elsweyr, and the summerset isles

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I strongly believe the next ES game will take place in Valenwood but I would like for it to take place in Hammerfell, either during or imediatly after the events of Skyrim.

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The Valenwood speculation is based on a possible "leak" that also suggested Fallout 4 and its DLCs correctly. It had a "Project Greenheart" in it. I speculate it will be TES VI: Greenheart.

I'd love to see Eye of Argonia as a title of a future game. It was going to be a sequel of TESA: Redguard but was cancelled. If Bethesda will create a TES game in Black Marsh, I want it to have that title and to reveal the mystery of the artifact called the Eye of Argonia.

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I would love to see a game set in both Alinor and Valenwood.

I've been developing my own little personal idea for what TES VI should be, involving the realms of man being thrust into utter chaos following the collapse of the Empire, the creation of an Argonian Empire and a new Dunmeri diaspora, the creation of a true Orcish state in the Dragontail Mountains, and the breakout of war between Anequina and Pelletine.

I understand the appeal of Hammerfell, but I simply don't want to see another province of men. We've already had two mannish provinces in a row, and I think it's high time we see more of the mysterious Altmer society and the wild forests of Valenwood.

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I'd like it to be up in flames.

Shogun 2 anyone? There's co-op.

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Personally I think it would be a good idea to do an daggerfall type game where it is set in more than 1 provinces. I think it should be set in all of Alinor and Valenwood as well as maybe the gold coast. Or they could do a dual province in elsweyr and blackmarsh. These two provinces could provide a nice change in scenery and would balance each other nicely

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Seriously, I think a sequel of Daggerfall would be great.  Sequel as in the setting's scope, locale, and campiness.

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Well I feel like Elder Scrolls: VI will most likely take place in Cyrodiil again, or the Summerset Isles. Valenwood and Black Marsh seem a bit fanciful in my opinion, as yeah they would be cool locations for an Elder Scrolls game to take place, you also have to factor in all the events of Skyrim and observe the patterns. The war between the Empire and the Thalmor isn't over, and I have to assume its conclusion will be in the next game. So the places that would make the most sense are the Summerset Isles, or Cyrodiil. I mean I'm not necessarily ruling out Valenwood or Black Marsh, or even Elsweyr, I just don't think they'll be locations in which a decisive battle between the two great powers will take place. But hey that's just my opinion.

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Well I think you have to examine what bethesda has done as game producers rather than story tellers. They have told us that they will not do any province twice because they want to keep moving forward and not revisit locations. The only reason they did the dragonborn dlc was to try to appease hardcore morrowind fans who felt they were being alienated. Personally I think Summerset is the most likely option due to the fact that we've already had two straight man provinces and in the direction of the story we've had the very biased viewpoint of the nords who think the elves are evil. Now I think they are going to show us the other side of the spectrum. However I think it would be a good idea for a dual province game in summerset and valenwood. This is to add a sense of innovation and to help prevent the elderscroll formula from getting stale in the eyes of more casual players less invested in the story that bethesda is trying to tell. This is also due to the complexity of the story itself. It is quite too complex for casual players to figure out without devoting a large amount of their time to try doing so

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Personally I would love to have an Elder Scrolls game based in the Summerset Isles. They are some of the most mysterious and closed off regions in the world, and they're overflowing with mystical Elven architecture and magic unlike anything we have seen in previous TES games, unless you count the Elder Scrolls: Online. But its nowhere near its fullest potential in ESO, there is still so much that they could do with it, not to mention it would have huge potential for awesome dlc. Imagine an Artaeum dlc for instance, maybe even allowing the player to join the Psijic Order(?) [nerdgasm]. But seriously, there is so much potential and I most definitely would not be displeased if they chose to give us an Altmer based Elder Scrolls. Besides like you said it would make plenty of sense as they have already given us a very man oriented game in the form of Skyrim, its counterpart the Summerset Isles are about as Elven as you can get. So if they were to do an Elven-based TES game, that would be the most likely location for it to take place.

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I couldn't stop myself, I have to comment - The Elder Scrolls Online is a TES game. I cannot comprehend why people say it's not. Maybe reject other spinoffs, too?

And I agree that Summerset Isles would make a lot of sense. They did not appear in their entirety in TESO, so there's still some unknown stuff to explore, plus my guess is that the next game will happen in Fourth or Fifth Era, so we have a lot of time difference. And it would nicely show two sides of the conflict and the fact that people are mistaken that all High Elves are elf-nazis. Sure, the Thalmor influences the minds of many, but it's not true everyone thinks like them, right?

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I only fear they would make the Altmer too relatable by toning down their haughtiness. Not every one of them supports the Thalmor, obviously, but their pride and genuine racism should shine through. Most Altmer aren't genocidal - they're just snobby, and I hope that if TES VI is in Summerset, they convey this to the player.

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Well what are you worried about? Lol you're the one who sounds a bit racist against High Elves. I mean not all Altmer are bad or racist like you said in your last statement, and they don't all share the same opinion as the Thalmor. The Thalmor are extremists who have usurped power from the actual King/Queen, they are a bunch of self-important isolationists and racists who have no regard for mankind, and see them as being less than beasts. It wasn't the choice of the typical High Elf to wage some racist war against the Empire, it was the cause of radical factions, and there are plenty of those in every society. As far as we know the Altmer people are suffering under the leadership of the Thalmor, in fact I'd stake money on that. You shouldn't base bias against the High Elven people as a whole simply because of the actions of some extremists that happen to be High Elven as well. I mean what's the harm in them making 'nice' or 'friendly' Altmer? They aren't all heartless or arrogant, if you play through any of the games you can find plenty of friendly High Elves, so I don't know what you're on about mate. :P

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Well it is known that the VAST majority of high elves, especially the ones living in the Summerset Isles view themselves as superior to other races. They are genocidal or anything like the Thalmor but they do think they are better than lesser races. It has to do with their upbringing, everything they are taught helps reinforce the idea that high elves are superior. To be exiled from the Summerset Isles was considered equal or greater than dying. Even when they are born most infants are killed due to being to weak. So even being alive in the Summerset Isles reinforces the beliefs of those living within that they are superior. High elves you meet in Tamriel can be born outside of Summerset and it is those high elves you likely meet. High elves don't inherently believe they are superior, but with being raised and taught in the summerset isles, those elves in the isles are likely racist and prejudice to some extent.

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Look, there are probably plenty of Altmer who don't actively want to genocide all the other races, but it's an undisputed fact that Altmeri superiority is a central tenet to their culture. They wouldn't be genocidal, but they would be incredibly snobbish - less Hitler, and more of that racist grandma who still says "colored people."

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Antonius of Niben wrote:

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You should read Rising Threat. It's an Altmer's experiences during the Oblivion Crisis and the Thalmor's rise to power.

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I'm not necessarily saying you guys are wrong, I just didn't agree with your fear about the Altmer being too relatable. I mean yes of course their culture is class-based, and they are definitely proud creatures, but what I was trying to say is that you were mostly generalizing. I am sure that there are plenty of High Elves in the Summerset Isles--especially commoners--who are friendly or at least well-mannered. My point from before was that not every High Elf is necessarily an extremist, or arrogant, or proud, that is just what you typically see.

I could say the Imperials are greedy and selfish, and that the Dark Elves are cultists and Daedra worshippers, or that Khajiit are skooma peddlers, but you can't classify an entire group of people and put them into any one category. Just like anywhere else there will be friendly bystanders, ruthless tyrants, insane wizards, and power-hungry nobles. Having the Altmer more relatable isn't a bad thing, it just means that we are beginning to understand them better. I mean Nords are uneducated, barbaric, and unsavory people right? But saying those things to define all Nords just isn't fair, they are also honorable, religious, and family-oriented. 

I'm not trying to be a High Elf apologist or anything, I just know that Skyrim vastly changed people's view of them, and there are a majority of people who flat out hate them as a whole because of the Thalmor. I just can't agree with that logic. Not saying that's where you were going with it, I just had to throw my two cents in there. 

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False-Mane Zorataba wrote:

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Like I said:

Tailin Sero wrote:

You [guys] should read Rising Threat. It's an Altmer's experiences during the Oblivion Crisis and the Thalmor's rise to power.

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Yeah I read through it, it's really interesting. It definitely goes to show that the Thalmor presence is not a good thing for the High Elven people.

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If the next ES game takes place in Valenwood I would like to see some sort of rebellion from the Bosmer. After all, they were conquered by the Thalmor, unlike Elsweyr who joined peacefully.

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While that would be nice, I don't think it is likely for us to get another Rebellion themed story so soon :-/ I mean, it would be too similar to the last plot. Yes, i get it, it wouldn't be the same kind of rebellion, considering it would be only bosmers versus thalmor, without a third force present, it would still be a similar topic.
If they do decide to tackle Valenwood as the setting for the next game, I think they are more likely to not decipt it as a province with an ongoing rebellion.

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I'd like it to take place in the late Qing Dynasty, during the Taiping Rebellion. Look it up, it oozes potential. 

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My ideal is Hammerfell. Redguard lore is some of the most unique, I think. Unlike the other, Padomaic, races of men, Redguards are Anuic in nature; they see Mundus as a punishment, similar to the existential angst of the elves. The mystery behind their exodus from Yokuda, the abundance of Dwemer ruins lying beneath the shifting dunes of the Alik'r contrasted with the swashbuckle and bustle of the coast and Stros M'Kai (we've been to Solstheim twice, it could happen,) and the political tensions between traditionalist Crowns and the more cosmopolitan Forbears all make for an intriguing game world. The ancient art of Sword Singing could be a system similar to Skyrim's Thu'um, with different techniques yielding various mechanics. I'm always down for some Mer slaughter if Bethesda decides to set the next game soon after Skyrim; I'm sure the Thalmor would like another crack at the only province to single-handedly repel them, even despite being sold out by the empire(!)

But I won't complain if we get a more alien province; the genre could use some nuance. I may mail my severed head to Todd if they set it in High Rock, however.

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Raga wrote:
he mystery behind their exodus from Yokuda, the abundance of Dwemer ruins lying beneath the shifting dunes of the Alik'r contrasted with the swashbuckle and bustle of the coast and Stros M'Kai (we've been to Solstheim twice, it could happen,).

We've been to Stros M'Kai twice, too. *cough* ESO *cough*

Apart from that, I love everything you said, the Iliac Bay is iconic and not only a place where political intrigue is abundant, but also a cluster of cultures: Ayleid (Direnni), Orsimer, Breton, Redguard.

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Raga wrote:
Unlike the other, Padomaic, races of men, Redguards are Anuic in nature; they see Mundus as a punishment.
I've thought about it, how the man/mer schism is projected onto the cosmic, as if that makes any sense - and it doesn't on purpose, at least how its written. I think the notion is patently so absurd, quite honestly. I get it, conflict brings disparity, and where there's disparity somebody's making bank... The "real" Anu-Padomay interplay, I believe, is one that's conciliatory at heart not disparaging, not gainful or dualistic.

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Stasis and change are disparate, though. Inverse. Aurbis is dualistic from the first. The concept trickles all the way down to Mundus, even called the Gray Maybe. The et'Ada were split between those who felt everything was fine and those stupid enough to take Lorkhan up on his batshit offer. There were Ehlnofey who wanted desperately to go home and Elhnofey who thought existence was neat. There was always Two.

Plus, I'd have a really hard time reconciling with my jealous brother who killed my lover. Especially from a coma.

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Its the old conceit of scholar-elites with too much time on their hands, anthropomorphizing the universe, or sometimes God, to justify naked imperialism and the profits of traitor priests.

Anu has no brother, no sister-wife, and there are no primordial gods. None of that ever happened. The myths are there to distract and misguide you.

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I think summerset isles would be really interesting but I dont think they will go there just yet. I have seen most people saying it will be in valenwood.

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I believe it would be interesting to explore other parts of Nirn. I've always wandered what the other continents are like.

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So if the general opinion is that it'll most likely be Valen Wood (which seems ok IMO) then at what time? Would it be a different era? Bethesda really likes to stay a healthy step away from concrete answers to actual events pertaining to player choice...