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Can anyone direct me to a book or other piece of information regarding native Argonian clothing?

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VoxelMush wrote:

Can anyone direct me to a book or other piece of information regarding native Argonian clothing?

I couldn't find much, but there is a part in the Argonian Racial Motif #9 from ESO, where they talk about Argonian design and decor:

          "Everywhere I looked I saw Argonian hangings, sculptures, and fetishes, all made from natural materials such as shells, bone, and feathers, glowing with bright spiral and geometric designs. If these objects were representative of what the Argonians used in their home regions, then snakeskin, tortoise shell, jagged teeth, turquoise and jade, all of which we would consider exotic materials, must be commonplace in Black Marsh,."

It's not clothing but it give you a better idea of what their clothes might look like. They are also referred to as shaman-like people, I think their clothing would reflect those things.

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Tailin Sero wrote:

VoxelMush wrote:

Can anyone direct me to a book or other piece of information regarding native Argonian clothing?

I couldn't find much, but there is a part in the Argonian Racial Motif #9 from ESO, where they talk about Argonian design and decor:

          "Everywhere I looked I saw Argonian hangings, sculptures, and fetishes, all made from natural materials such as shells, bone, and feathers, glowing with bright spiral and geometric designs. If these objects were representative of what the Argonians used in their home regions, then snakeskin, tortoise shell, jagged teeth, turquoise and jade, all of which we would consider exotic materials, must be commonplace in Black Marsh,."

It's not clothing but it give you a better idea of what their clothes might look like. They are also referred to as shaman-like people, I think their clothing would reflect those things.

Many thanks. :)

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Also try looking at some ESO Argonian concept art/screen shots. That might help a bit more.

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VoxelMush wrote:

Can anyone direct me to a book or other piece of information regarding native Argonian clothing?

In the Tribes of Murkmire series, the Tum-Taleel, or Root-House People, are described as wearing "nothing but loin cloths and war paint."

Meer-Glim is also described as wearing a black loin cloth in The Infernal City novel.

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Does the Library have the dialogue for the daedric quests from Oblivion?

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If its not in the book of Daedra, then I don't think so.

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Tailin Sero wrote:

Does the Library have the dialogue for the daedric quests from Oblivion?

It's pretty hidden, but they're there. Here's a direct link.

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Lady N wrote:

Tailin Sero wrote:

Does the Library have the dialogue for the daedric quests from Oblivion?

It's pretty hidden, but they're there. Here's a direct link.

Thanks a lot.

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Hello,

I'm new here and i think your work guys is amazing.
My question is simple :

How can i be allowed to create a thread on the forum ? I have important questions for you guys regarding Thalmor i could not solved by searching here.

Many thanks

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Praxedes wrote:
Hello, I'm new here and i think your work guys is amazing. My question is simple : How can i be allowed to create a thread on the forum ? I have important questions for you guys regarding Thalmor i could not solved by searching here. Many thanks

Click "Create Content" at the top of the page. Then click "Forum Topic".

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Hello everyone! I need some help regarding alchemical ingredients of Elsweyr, preferrably of the southern regions of the province. The only thing I've found so far is Nightshade, a poisonous herb found in many parts of Elsweyr, mentioned in the book "Special Flora of Tamriel". What other information is there regarding Elsweyrian alchemical ingredients and information in general regarding Elsweyr's alchemy?

 

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VoxelMush wrote:

Hello everyone! I need some help regarding alchemical ingredients of Elsweyr, preferrably of the southern regions of the province. The only thing I've found so far is Nightshade, a poisonous herb found in many parts of Elsweyr, mentioned in the book "Special Flora of Tamriel". What other information is there regarding Elsweyrian alchemical ingredients and information in general regarding Elsweyr's alchemy?

There is also Moon Sugar. I did a quick search and all I could find was Nightshade, as well.

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There is little known on that, since Elsweyr does not have its own game and ESO confirms info you and Tailin have. I can research some lore later on. Perhaps you could make a thread about that.

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This'll take some digging, and is generally consumable-related (rather potion specific), but its probably your best bet if you want a wealth of data.

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Food_Recipes - ESO food recipes/ingredients
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Beverage_Recipes - ESO beverage recipes/ingredients
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Provisioning_Ingredients/deprecated - provisioning ingredients prior to the revamp in 1.5

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Thanks for the answers, everyone!

The Lusty Dovahkiin (cool username), if I were to make a thread, would I get any more help than what I've already got here? Where would I make it?

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VoxelMush wrote:

Thanks for the answers, everyone!

The Lusty Dovahkiin (cool username), if I were to make a thread, would I get any more help than what I've already got here? Where would I make it?

Click "create content" at the top of the page. And if you don't get anymore new info it would still be nice to have what info you did get all in one place for future references.

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Tailin Sero wrote:

VoxelMush wrote:

Thanks for the answers, everyone!

The Lusty Dovahkiin (cool username), if I were to make a thread, would I get any more help than what I've already got here? Where would I make it?

Click "create content" at the top of the page. And if you don't get anymore new info it would still be nice to have what info you did get all in one place for future references.

I'll do that, cheers.

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I need some help regarding the search feature. I know this isn't exactly the right board for it but I can't find any better place.

I'd like to do some research on the Direnni Tower, which has different aliases, so I wanted to know how to separate phrases in the "Containing the phrase:" box of the advanced search, so I can search for books containing the phrase "Direnni Tower" and/or "Adamantine Tower", etc. etc.

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Sounds like a good idea. As a new member, I do have a question, if I may-relating to the Aldmeri Dominion purging Alinor of all non-pure elves-Morrowind's Princess Morgiah married the king of Alinor.  She is a Dunmer, and their two children look Dunmer as well.  What happened to her?  This could cause a huge war between Morrowind and Alinor!

thanks......

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Greetings. This one, though Kaaz, is slightly unfamiliar with all of her mythos and legends. Could someone direct her the best way? And, yes she knows that her profile picture is that of a Breton, but that is this one's best friend.

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0d1nsd1s wrote:

Sounds like a good idea. As a new member, I do have a question, if I may-relating to the Aldmeri Dominion purging Alinor of all non-pure elves-Morrowind's Princess Morgiah married the king of Alinor.  She is a Dunmer, and their two children look Dunmer as well.  What happened to her?  This could cause a huge war between Morrowind and Alinor!

thanks......

You mean this? Maybe this book will help you https://www.imperial-library.info/content/firsthold-revolt

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Vahzen wrote:

Greetings. This one, though Kaaz, is slightly unfamiliar with all of her mythos and legends. Could someone direct her the best way? And, yes she knows that her profile picture is that of a Breton, but that is this one's best friend.

I suggest reading:

https://www.imperial-library.info/content/seven-shadows-rajhin-pt-1 and the other parts

https://www.imperial-library.info/content/morrowind-words-clan-mother-ah...

https://www.imperial-library.info/content/moon-worship-among-cat-men

https://www.imperial-library.info/content/moon-cats-and-their-dance

 

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Do we have that quote somewhere about how the world of Elder Scrolls is a real place accessible through a portal in one of the dev's basements? The joke was part of an explanation on how the world depicted in the games is only a representation of the real place.

I remembering hearing this (or something like this) years back. I can't find it though.

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That sounds kind of like MK's description of Lyg

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I'm almost certain it is not. This would have been waaay back around the time of Morrowind, I think.

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I don't recall ever hearing that one.

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I'm doing a project on the contest between the Direni Sorcerer Chimere Graegyn and Mehrunes Dagon, where in the document "Harvest End 3E172" Dagon was tricked into swearing an oath against the POWERS which Chimere knew the Prince would break. I'm not sure who or what the POWERS is/are. Is the author speaking of the Aedra or Aetherius or something else? Any thoughts on this subject would be helpful.

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baumgartner, you'd be better served posting these sorts of questions in the Lore thread, or in the General Lore topic if you don't think its worthy of a topic all its own. The Circulation Desk is mainly employed to help people find texts at the Library, not to analyze them.

To answer your question in the spirit of the thread, however, there are a few sources that mention "the Powers" (proper noun). Most of these are from Battlespire, but they help give context to what is meant:

https://www.imperial-library.info/content/facing-mehrunes-dagon

The hero, to the daedra: By all the Powers, I dedicate each righteous thump and buffet upon your lousy carcass to the departed spirits of those who died defending Battlespire.

https://www.imperial-library.info/content/weir-gate

Clarentavious Valisious, to the hero:  By the Powers! You amaze me! Very well.

https://www.imperial-library.info/content/havok-wellhead

Xivilai Moath, to the hero: Very well. I shall require a oath to the Powers that you will never reveal the neonymic to another soul...

Hero, to Xivilai Moath: To your proposal, by the Great Powers, I so swear.

https://www.imperial-library.info/content/anchor-warning

Clarentavious Valisious, note: In their o'er-reaching wisdom, the Powers have required me, against my every protest and complaint, to affix to it a dreadful device, which you see before you, whose purpose is to sunder and divide this anchor and imperil the Spire and all who inhabit it.

https://www.imperial-library.info/content/starlovers-log

Samar Starlover, note: May the Powers be with me.

https://www.imperial-library.info/content/battlespire-waters-oblivion

The Waters of Oblivion, another text from Battlespire, is a bit more useful. Worth quoting in its entirity because the greater context is worth it: 

[beneath this passage from THE WATERS OF OBLIVION someone has scrawled a comment in blood; the script is still damp]

An hundred and twenty numbered ages in the void that fated folk had grown deep-schooled in evil. Then the Bright Gods resolved to punish those faithless spirits, and shatter the unruly caitiffs, those huge, unholy scathers, loathsome to the Light. They repented exceedingly that they had gazed upon Oblivion, and seen there the first of dark kin, and welcomed them as brothers and sisters.

The Principalities of Victory beheld how great was the wickedness of the wayward spirits, and saw that they were bold in sin and full of wiles. They resolved then to chasten the tribes of daedra, and smite darkkind with hammer and hand.

But ever shall Darkness contest the Light, and great were the Powers that breathed the void and laid waste upon one another, and no oath might bind them, so deep were they in envy and perfidy. For once the portals are opened, who shall shut them upon the rising tide?

[the comment] Crap!!! Where do they GET such silly ideas?

https://www.imperial-library.info/content/reman-i

And finally, the sole text that doesn't come from Battlespire but uses Powers as a proper noun, a OOG forum post by the devs: 

Let me be clear. The Powers that govern our world and beyond are not for me to judge or to doubt. Their handiwork is self-evident and I leave their study to the philosophers and theologians. Indeed, my long acquantaince with the Dwemer leave me no doubt that they meddled in things that were best left alone. However, it is the essential duty of the historian to separate the "true myths" (those which can be attested to the transcendent Powers) from the "created myths" (those which are created by mundane powers to bolster their own interests on the backs of the gullible). In my experience, the former are far fewer than most would prefer to believe -- people prefer a good story over prosaic reality. 

 Given what I have assembled here, I would say the safest translation for "the Powers" would probably be "the Gods." The Waters of Oblivion suggests they are the Daedric Princes (or most liberally, both the Aedra and Daedra), and Xivilai Moath's (a daedroth) invocation of them for an oath suggests as much. The quote from the forum about Reman however suggests the Powers are more exclusively Aedra (or perhaps the Earthbones), as do most of the comments invoking them in prayer or explicative.

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Wow! Thank you kindly Fiore1300 for the in-depth and professional response ... much more than I was expecting or hoping for even though POWERS remains a somewhat nebulous collection of entities. So for my Chimere versus Mehrunes Dagon project I shall comfortably play the role of Lewis Carroll's caterpillar and let the title of POWERS be exactly what I choose it to be to fit the story. Thank you again!