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Can an Aedra/Daedra Grant Immortality to men or mer?

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I'm writing some backstory for my ES character and I would like to know if he could be "cursed" with never-ending life. I've tried Rping and making everything up as I go in-game, but it doesn't work very well for me, and I get my thoughts scattered a bit too much during play. 

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Well, the Nerevarine is supposed to be immortal, so there's definitely president. I can also see a Daedra granting eternal life to one of their followers, especially if it ends up not working out too well for your character. 

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Lady N wrote:

Well, the Nerevarine is supposed to be immortal, so there's definitely president. I can also see a Daedra granting eternal life to one of their followers, especially if it ends up not working out too well for your character. 

Thanks for the confirmation. You see, I've been thinking of making my character cursed with immortality because of something terrible he did in the past, which included pissing off a daedra. I think it would make a neat story of redemption spread over 100's of years if he was reincarnated every era, under similar aliases and personality. My goal is to make him a lot more generous and kinder through out ES 1-5 (and beyond) so that he may redeem himself in the eyes of the daedra he angered. Completing his destiny with a true heart would break his curse and finally let his soul ascend into Sovngarde/Aetherius etc.

Does this backstory sound plausible? I'm sorry for repeating myself but I would like to get this just right.

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Mankar's Ascended Immortals, while living on a Daedric Plane, are technically resurrected and now immortal.

Vampires while technically deceased are also, arguably, immortal depending on how you want to look at it and define it.

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BSoDGaming wrote:

Thanks for the confirmation. You see, I've been thinking of making my character cursed with immortality because of something terrible he did in the past, which included pissing off a daedra. I think it would make a neat story of redemption spread over 100's of years if he was reincarnated every era, under similar aliases and personality. My goal is to make him a lot more generous and kinder through out ES 1-5 (and beyond) so that he may redeem himself in the eyes of the daedra he angered. Completing his destiny with a true heart would break his curse and finally let his soul ascend into Sovngarde/Aetherius etc.

Does this backstory sound plausible? I'm sorry for repeating myself but I would like to get this just right.

Very plausible. In Battlespire, the nocturnal Fayrdra Shardai makes you a daedra/immortal in order to punish you all eternity for your transgressions.

True to her word, Faydra Shardai makes your substance proof against time, which means you will be conscious through the eternity of torment she has planned for you. And your rewards indeed are no less than those of the boldest of her lieutenants - the bold lieutenants who dare to challenge her authority, the bold lieutenants who share your never-ending misery and despair.

Of course, that's just to torture you for all eternity. I could equally see a daedra doing so if they wanted something more out of you. As a follower of Hermaeus Mora once said:

"The ultimate purpose of the Daedra Lords is to instruct and improve the generally deplorable character of mortals."

Of course, by human standards, the daedra have never come across as moral paragons. Previously I interpreted this as daedra finding typical mortal character and values (think of the Divines: love, mercy, beauty, hard work) as being deplorable. Then again, maybe the motives behind their actions are more obscure and meandering than we expect. I could certainly see daedra performing the role of tempting and testing spirits; building strength of character through opposition and temptation. That is certainly how the Dunmer perceive the House of Troubles.

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I don't know that Nerevar Indoril was immortal-- The Tribunal and Dagoth Ur ascended to godhood/immortality by tapping into the Heart of Lorkhan. Apparently, it was so serious a matter, that Azura had personally warned Nerevar not to allow this to happen, and cursed the entire Dunmeri people when Almsivi betrayed Nerevar. AND she arranged for the eventual destruction of the "living gods," and Lorkhan's Heart.

Obviously, while possible to the most powerful of Morrowind's magic-users, I don't think the Daedra or Aedra would simply grant immortality or godhood to any of their devotees. Not without some seriously nasty "Twilight Zone" type twist.

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"Vampirisme" is a form of imortality. Like the Tribunal and Nerevar, vampires can be killed, but all are immune to desease and untouched by time. The curse was first created when Molag Bal raped a mortal woman (Daughter of Coldharbor).

The Nerevarine is immortal, like Nerevar, but was only granted this power when Azura willed the reincarnation to take form.

Boethia ate Trinimac, turning him into Malacath. Malacath is not only immortal, but he is also now a Daedric Prince.

Yes, daedra can grant immortality.

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Trinimac was already immortal, at least in terms of being ageless. He became truly immortal as Malacath. However, both vampires and the Nerevarine can die by being whacked over the head enough times, so they're no more immortal than any Aedroth.

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IcarusBen wrote:

both vampires and the Nerevarine can die by being whacked over the head enough times,

Both are immortal, just not invunerable.

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>>>It was my understanding that a mortal could only achieve true immortality by achieving CHIM. That is, independent, invulnerable, and everlasting. 

>>>The only issues I have with Vampirism and being the puppet of a Daedra are that in the former case you can be relieved of your everlasting condition through a valid cue, and in the latter case you begin to age normally again if you are ever released from the Daedra's service and returned to Nirn, far as I can tell. Though, when you meet Sheogorath's servant in Solitude in the 4th Era, he says "It's been years" since his master has been on vacation, with no real explanation of how long years is, but it could possibly have been much longer than a normal mortal lifespan, which would suggest that either Daedra can grant immortality, or that Sheogorath's presence still lingered with him.

>>>Somewhat unrelated, but one's longevity could also be argued to be influenced by how close a descendant you are of Aedra/Daedra. I believe this is the explanation for Mer living so long. Though some dispute the Altmer's claim of divine heritage, I find it plausible. 

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Not only does your backstory sound plausible,I love the idea of an author exploring immorality as a curse brought on by divine judgement.I think part of what draws fans to ES Series is the freedom left to us with the lore.We're encouraged to interact with the lore as we desire.Thank you for sharing your ideas with us.